Wow....ein Wasserkolosseum (?). Wenn es das ist was ich denke und meine, dass es das ist dann...richtig toll und episch, aber auch...ziemlich gefährlich für alle Zuschauer wenn sie nicht als Zielscheibe für umherfliegende Holz- und Metallsplitter enden wollen *lach*
Wie immer einfach eine Meisterarbeit, lieber Herr Flavio x)
! Wow, Stunning!, i wish i could paint like you! <3 you just made me fall in love with this,
I guessed it was the coliseum when i laid eyes on it! i was taught about it and how they filled it with later and did re-enactments of great sea battles! I love the roman times if you haven't noticed! xD
Amazing, I like how you did the coliseum. I'm guessing you got a few interesting facts from it like, the coliseum could fill up with water and have ship battles. But I digress, I love it. It just fits together perfectly. I think that seeing a live ship battle like that would actually be so awesome o.O
OAO I was never really expecting someone to do this (makes my inner history fangirl squee with joy since it's a lesser known fact that some coliseums actually were capable of holding enough water to conduct displays of nautical warfare)
Apparently they were built directly on lakes most of the time rather than attempting to flood the whole stadium (a university actually recreated coliseum flooding during a discovery channel special & they actually succeeded [link] )
Well, first of all you've drawn a amphitheater based off the colosseo it seems, based on the fact that it isn't complete; an amphitheater in Roman times would have had all its walls the entire way around, whereas you have drawn them only partially.
Then there's the tribune, which would never have had a vertical walls in between them. They would also have gone from almost the top most part of the amphitheater to the arena , instead of stopping and leaving a useless vertical wall behind.
I could also rant about the dubiousness of the existence of the naumachia, because it is highly unlikely the amphitheaters were actually able to keep the water inside; underneath the arena, there was a complex system of tunnels, hatches and even a primitive kind of elevators, which makes it highly unlikely there was a way of making it water tight.. The scale is also disputable: these amphitheaters were very large, but the roman galleys used to fight in actual wars were way too large to fit in the arena, so even if they somehow managed to keep the water in, they would probably not have been able to use actual ships.
Excuse my bluntness, but i'm pretty tired.. ironically I just came back from a visit to Rome to learn about exactly these kind of things, so that's probably the reason this struck me as "wrong", although, in hindsight, "incorrect" would've been a better term.
If you want to know anything else or need clarification or whatever, please just ask
(And if you're ever going to be really serious about Roman architecture, you might (or actually, should) want to read Vitruvius' De Architectura, or at least a part of it (it's made up of ten books, so reading it all might be a bit overkill ))
Thanks a lot for the detailed information, Malunon. I seen know what could have been done a bit more correct historically. I am not entierly sure, but I think that my comissioners didn't want to have everthing super accurate how it really was. They where more looking an epic picture with big scale. And this one was immediately accepted because of its style. But something is for sure really strange: I took a look to many old Naumachia Paintings for reference, and they all seem to take place in a colloseum, which is very similar to the one I painted.
Please, don't take what I'm saying as direct criticism to your beautiful artwork - you haven't done anything wrong. It just stood out to me that you said you had learned some new things while creating this, so I thought you might be interested in some more information, and what better way to give you that than to show you the differences between reality and your creation?
The Naumachia paintings you looked at probably are paintings that were created hundreds of years after they took place. In Renaissance and even in baroque art, these kind of things are a very favourable subject, because it is rather romantic and of course quite a special occasion; who would think one could fight a sea battle in an amphitheater?
One thing you should really take note of, is that this is not "a colosseum". The only Colosseum is the one in Rome, and even that should not actually be called the Colosseum, for it is actually called "Amphitheatrum Flavium", after the Flavian emperors. Every one of these oval (or sometimes round) shaped buildings are amphitheaters, not collossea. The reason the colosseum is called the colosseum, is that the emperor Nero had a statue of him, some 30 meters high, erected near the Amphitheater, which was called the Colosseum. Through some kind of mistake, people started calling the Amphitheater "Colosseum", and that is the name people know today - even though the Amphitheater has a name plate on it saying "Amphitheatrum Flavium".